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		<title>By: Karina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi , CatONG is using and working in the field with QGIS.

It is true that integration is quite easy and the OSM integration is awesome. but we need good and reliable connection that is not always available in the field.

the community is really important for generating baseline dataset, after humanitarians could work with there own data for planning purposes.

 For information CartONG is providing training and dataset (french and english) http://www.cartong.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=61&amp;Itemid=103〈=en  the update of the booklet will be released soon end of January, integrating latest tools/ plugin from &#039;mimas&#039; and &#039;enceladus&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi , CatONG is using and working in the field with QGIS.</p>
<p>It is true that integration is quite easy and the OSM integration is awesome. but we need good and reliable connection that is not always available in the field.</p>
<p>the community is really important for generating baseline dataset, after humanitarians could work with there own data for planning purposes.</p>
<p> For information CartONG is providing training and dataset (french and english) <a href="http://www.cartong.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=61&amp;Itemid=103〈=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.cartong.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=61&amp;Itemid=103〈=en</a>  the update of the booklet will be released soon end of January, integrating latest tools/ plugin from &#8216;mimas&#8217; and &#8216;enceladus&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Strynatka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Strynatka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

Thanks for commenting.  Yes, I did take a look at the JPL site.  It seems like http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/ hosts the global dataset and the Seamless Server is just the USA.  Because of the nature of FTP, it can be difficult to find data for any specific area (example: you need to look at index files like this: http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/SRTM1/Region_definition.jpg).  Given the investment in the data acquisition and processing, it would be great if the dissemination tools were a bit more intuitive (which could also result in an uptick in usage).  The folks at http://www.opentopography.org/ have done a good job at this.  The data they host isn&#039;t global, but the interface for finding and downloading data is very fluid both both first-time and experienced users.

Cheers,

Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting.  Yes, I did take a look at the JPL site.  It seems like <a href="http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/" rel="nofollow">http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/</a> hosts the global dataset and the Seamless Server is just the USA.  Because of the nature of FTP, it can be difficult to find data for any specific area (example: you need to look at index files like this: <a href="http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/SRTM1/Region_definition.jpg)" rel="nofollow">http://dds.cr.usgs.gov/srtm/version2_1/SRTM1/Region_definition.jpg)</a>.  Given the investment in the data acquisition and processing, it would be great if the dissemination tools were a bit more intuitive (which could also result in an uptick in usage).  The folks at <a href="http://www.opentopography.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opentopography.org/</a> have done a good job at this.  The data they host isn&#8217;t global, but the interface for finding and downloading data is very fluid both both first-time and experienced users.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Farr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Farr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan, 
Nice work. I&#039;m surprised by your comment that SRTM data are hard to find. Did you go to http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/cbanddataproducts.html  ?  I agree that new &#039;versions&#039; of the data keep popping up with confusing version numbers. These are not official and we have no control over that. The two &#039;official&#039; sites are the USGS ftp and Seamless Server sites (links at above site). We hope to have in a year or so a version that fuses the ASTER GDEM with SRTM to fill voids with data. By the way, the USGS has a disaster liaison who has managed to release full-res SRTM data for some disasters. Don&#039;t know if she did it for Haiti. 
Cheers, 
Tom Farr
SRTM Deputy Project Scientist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,<br />
Nice work. I&#8217;m surprised by your comment that SRTM data are hard to find. Did you go to <a href="http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/cbanddataproducts.html" rel="nofollow">http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/cbanddataproducts.html</a>  ?  I agree that new &#8216;versions&#8217; of the data keep popping up with confusing version numbers. These are not official and we have no control over that. The two &#8216;official&#8217; sites are the USGS ftp and Seamless Server sites (links at above site). We hope to have in a year or so a version that fuses the ASTER GDEM with SRTM to fill voids with data. By the way, the USGS has a disaster liaison who has managed to release full-res SRTM data for some disasters. Don&#8217;t know if she did it for Haiti.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Tom Farr<br />
SRTM Deputy Project Scientist</p>
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		<title>By: seo tools</title>
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		<dc:creator>seo tools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you know are planning to make a donation to assist those in need, please consider the Haiti Emergency Relief Fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know are planning to make a donation to assist those in need, please consider the Haiti Emergency Relief Fund.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Strynatka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Strynatka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Glenn,

Good question: I did not.  The thing with portals is that (a) there are several of them and (b) you never know which one has the data you want - since in this case I knew specifically that I wanted SRTM for the terrain.  For example, in addition to GEOSS there is:

UNEP GEO Data Portal (http://geodata.grid.unep.ch/): no SRTM
Geodata.gov: US-only
OpenTopography Portal (http://www.opentopography.org/index.php): I&#039;m a huge fan of this portal - nice clean interface - but unfortunately the focus is on high-res terrain data only (e.g. LIDAR).

Along with many more regional and local sites...

The GEOSS portal (I checked this candidate one: www.geowebportal.org) did have some SRTM WMS/WCS access, but I was looking for data to download as opposed to web services.

I don&#039;t think you&#039;re wasting your time by including metadata though: if a portal indexes the content, then the metadata has a great deal of value.  The GEOSS portal still isn&#039;t very mature, so I&#039;d like to think that the data finds it&#039;s way there eventually.  It&#039;s a valuable resource and I would think that the demand for it will drive the effort to index it in (potentially) many places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Glenn,</p>
<p>Good question: I did not.  The thing with portals is that (a) there are several of them and (b) you never know which one has the data you want &#8211; since in this case I knew specifically that I wanted SRTM for the terrain.  For example, in addition to GEOSS there is:</p>
<p>UNEP GEO Data Portal (<a href="http://geodata.grid.unep.ch/" rel="nofollow">http://geodata.grid.unep.ch/</a>): no SRTM<br />
Geodata.gov: US-only<br />
OpenTopography Portal (<a href="http://www.opentopography.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.opentopography.org/index.php</a>): I&#8217;m a huge fan of this portal &#8211; nice clean interface &#8211; but unfortunately the focus is on high-res terrain data only (e.g. LIDAR).</p>
<p>Along with many more regional and local sites&#8230;</p>
<p>The GEOSS portal (I checked this candidate one: <a href="http://www.geowebportal.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.geowebportal.org</a>) did have some SRTM WMS/WCS access, but I was looking for data to download as opposed to web services.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re wasting your time by including metadata though: if a portal indexes the content, then the metadata has a great deal of value.  The GEOSS portal still isn&#8217;t very mature, so I&#8217;d like to think that the data finds it&#8217;s way there eventually.  It&#8217;s a valuable resource and I would think that the demand for it will drive the effort to index it in (potentially) many places.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question for Ryan.....did you use geospatial metadata? Wasn&#039;t the vision that you could go to somewhere like GEOSS portal and find everything? Is geospatial metadata now obsolete? Should I use my already limited time to document my data with metadata?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for Ryan&#8230;..did you use geospatial metadata? Wasn&#8217;t the vision that you could go to somewhere like GEOSS portal and find everything? Is geospatial metadata now obsolete? Should I use my already limited time to document my data with metadata?</p>
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		<title>By: y_rebois</title>
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		<dc:creator>y_rebois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi , CatONG is using and working in the field with QGIS.

It is true that integration is quite easy and the OSM integration is awesome. but we need good and reliable connection that is not always available in the field.

the community is really important for generating baseline dataset, after humanitarians could work with there own data for planning purposes.

 For information CartONG is providing training and dataset (french and english) http://www.cartong.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=61&amp;Itemid=103〈=en  the update of the booklet will be released soon end of January, integrating latest tools/ plugin from &#039;mimas&#039; and &#039;enceladus&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi , CatONG is using and working in the field with QGIS.</p>
<p>It is true that integration is quite easy and the OSM integration is awesome. but we need good and reliable connection that is not always available in the field.</p>
<p>the community is really important for generating baseline dataset, after humanitarians could work with there own data for planning purposes.</p>
<p> For information CartONG is providing training and dataset (french and english) <a href="http://www.cartong.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=61&amp;Itemid=103〈=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.cartong.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=61&amp;Itemid=103〈=en</a>  the update of the booklet will be released soon end of January, integrating latest tools/ plugin from &#8216;mimas&#8217; and &#8216;enceladus&#8217;</p>
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